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Justifications for War
By Mike Doughney


Time: Thu, 26-Aug-1999 03:39:02 GMT     
IP: 207.239.111.82

:Do we have to be aggressive? Yeah! To counter
:trends we see as destructive to the whole fibre
:of the American society.

Now be careful tilting at that windmill, and
when you're devising ways to blow it down make
sure you don't take yourself down along with
everyone else in the process, okay?

:Do we fear loosing rights? Yes! Do we fear
:loosing peace & prosperity due to the aggressors
:holding their materialistic world-view?  Yes!

Taking lessons from Marx and Lenin, again, I
see.

: The energy you see us putting into this
:counter-culture movement must attempt to match
:that of the elitist thinkers of the past &
:present who have insisted on their world-view
:being the dominant, & only influence in American
:culture. How dare you say we are the threat to
:the undoing of society! We're not blind to
:what's happening.

Thing is, when you get completely wrapped up in
the line of thinking you've just laid out there
really isn't any stopping you; you've endorsed
being "aggressive," others support being
"unrestrained," and others advocate punching
their unconverted roommates in the face when
they ask for a light, calling themselves "real
men" in the process. You obviously believe your
own propaganda, that "those other people" are a
threat to peace, and that your open calls to
revolution aren't.  I don't buy it.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and endorse
Neil Horsley's nuclear civil war scenario, if
you really think that fixing those "trends we
see as destructive," as you imagine them,
actually fixes anything.  When there's no
privacy everything "destructive" that you
couldn't see before becomes public; when there's
instant communications everywhere every little
thing everywhere becomes a huge problem to be
fixed.  There is little to support a "trend"
other than your increased awareness of
everything that bugs you, and the increased
awareness on the part of every other subculture
that they needn't lie down and take abuse
anymore.

Somehow I don't think bombing clinics, killing
cops and making sure that some people can't hold
jobs and can't rent a place to live solves much
of anything.  Bottom line, making everyone who
doesn't share your group affinity, rituals and
slogans a target and thus justifying any action
including war against almost anyone else besides
yourself is not a solution.


 

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